‘ That’s when I lost my temper ‘: Ash Sarkar on her clash with Piers Morgan

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The activist who met the Good Morning Britain presenter was talking about her suspicions over Brexit, the future of communism in Britain and her feeling for Spurs

Writer, speaker and activist Ash Sarkar, 26, grew up in north London and got two magnitudes at UCL. She is now senior editor at progressive leftwing website Novara Media, focusing on race, gender, class and superpower. Footage extended viral last week after she is available on ITV’s Good Morning Britain examined the Stop Trump march, telling presenter Piers Morgan:” I’m literally a socialist, you idiot .”

How is your new noted fame ?
Surreal. I’m punch-drunk but still alive. Before, I’d maybe get recognised a couple of times per week; now it’s most targets I travel. What if I’m really hungover and gross the working day? Or having a PMS cry on the bus? But everyone’s unerringly lovely and merely had wished to chat about politics, which is encouraging. It shows there’s a real hunger for booking and conversation that doesn’t treat parties like they’re stupid. Do you think there’s a trend towards shouty, adversarial media ?
Yes, although there’s a huge comparison between Newsnight , where you can make a point clearly, and Good Morning Britain , where you’re participate a bring quarry to get savaged. Piers Morgan and the make unit have tacked fairly hard towards the alt-right. A leftwing Muslim woman is like throwing chum to them. How did you feel when Piers Morgan kept talking over you ?
He remained trying to pin me down on Obama’s presidency, even though I’d come on to talk about Trump, with the presumption that I was a diehard Democrat. That’s when I lost my temper. I hadn’t planned to call him an moronic or go in hard about his journalistic record. I was just annoyed with being barracked for something I’m not. Is his co-anchor, Susanna Reid , complicit ?
I’ve always spotted her very fair. The postdating date, “youve seen” her trying to take the fight to Steve Bannon in the face of his[ Morgan’s] fawning and flattery. She clearly understands how to play the foil, but she’s a respected reporter. There will come a spot where she’ll ask herself if this is the kind of journalism she genuinely wants to do. Has she worked hard her whole busines to play this Mr& Mrs game? Or does she want to strike out on her own and reveal the full proportion of what she can do? I hope it’s the latter. Did Morgan elevate your stimulate ?
He’s accidentally rehabilitated socialism. Comrade Morgan, the People’s Commissar For the Execution of Revolutionary Justice. I just wanted to discuss Trump’s disgraceful politics and the importance of rejecting bigotry. I didn’t realise that the next day I’d be doing an interview with Teen Vogue about Karl Marx’s Grundrisse [ chuckles ]. Lots of us have been plugging away, build a programme to talk about libertarian communism and post-scarcity financials. I never imagined it to have a culture moment like this. Have you had more Tv gives ?
Celebrity Big brother asked me to go on. I said,” Listen, there are much easier ways to see me get drunk, alienate parties and have an ill-advised dry hump. Just meet me on a Saturday night out .” I could become a tap-dancing poodle in different cultures wars, but is that going to get more people participating in politics or exactly induce me a discourse comic?

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Do “youre feeling” you are able to capitalise on your higher profile ?
It’s not about personally profiting; I want people to support the media organisation I work for. Since Good Morning Britain , I’ve had lots of emails from strange followers asking if I can ” fin-dom” them- financially dominate them by spending all their money. It’s unsettling, so I’ve been reply with the link to our subscriptions page. We’re selling” I’m literally a socialist” T-shirts to help keep the studio running. It was also on placards at the Stop Trump march. How was that ?
I bumped into some of them. This is what people have been missing: politics shouldn’t be about the dour cultishness and pomposity that dominated the left for decades- it should be joyful and exuberant. Your Twitter bio uses the words “anarcho-fabulous” and” luxury socialism “. Can you justify ?
It’s partly poking fun at how people accrue adjectives and made them in their bios as if they’re a meaningful button. But likewise, my communism isn’t about authoritarian bureaucracy, suppressing democracy or everyone wearing burlap bags. It’s about the desire to see the coercive arrangements of state dismantled, while also having fun. It’s not about driving everybody down to the same level of abjection, but making aesthetic pleases and indulgences available to all. How do you see communism carrying out activities in 21 st-century Britain ?
As a long-termist, I acknowledge there are more pressing justifications than the obliteration of private property. This is why I’m a Corbyn supporter. We have the opportunity for a socialism that says austerity is a deliberate political choice. We can more equitably circulate fortune through taxation. We can borrow to invest in housing, railways and healthcare, realise them publicly available and coped resources. That’s what we’ve got room for in this country right now. Communist vision can help guide that and give people a say in every decision that affects their lives. Is it possible to support Corbyn but still feel disclosed by him over Brexit ?
I voted Remain but the cost of losing twice would be disastrous. It would constitute life difficult for people of colour or anyone perceived as an immigrant. If you require any hope of staying in the EU, or having a Brexit that doesn’t mean capitulation to ethno-nationalism, you’ve got to tie it to a wider vision of political and economies in transition. Which, at this extent, intends endorse Corbyn. You’re a big football fan, right ?
Huge. I’m a diehard Spurs supporter who gets her soul smashed again and again. I adore terrace culture, the flow of the game and those minutes of grace like Zidane’s attack where you just think:” That is God speaking through you, my son .” I became haunted with Jordan Pickford during the World Cup. Mainly how he looked like Thomas Turgoose from This Is England . Is it true-life you’ve never purposely caressed a Tory ?
Absolutely. I make it my business to check. I give them a speak list before a first year, then maybe we can go to Wetherspoons. What will you say next time you get the announce from Good Morning Britain ?
New phone, who dis?

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